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	<description>Evidence-based teaching methods for helping students who are at risk for school failure or who have disabilities.</description>
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		<title>By: Jeff Moran</title>
		<link>http://TeachEffectively.com/2009/03/12/fast-forword-doesnt/comment-page-1/#comment-73698</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Moran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 May 2011 12:26:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting comments as I am looking for a product that will compliment the sound therapy/bio-feedback that I use with students in UK schools. Now given me food to look a lot deeper into its success rates. Thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting comments as I am looking for a product that will compliment the sound therapy/bio-feedback that I use with students in UK schools. Now given me food to look a lot deeper into its success rates. Thanks</p>
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		<title>By: Blend</title>
		<link>http://TeachEffectively.com/2009/03/12/fast-forword-doesnt/comment-page-1/#comment-68945</link>
		<dc:creator>Blend</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Mar 2009 06:14:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent blog, quite informative and resource for your readers ........</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent blog, quite informative and resource for your readers &#8230;&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Geoff Nixon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Geoff Nixon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Mar 2009 16:38:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We are a private provider of Fast ForWord using a motivational learning center approach.  We get better results than these studies because we have 90% compliance on average vs 60-65% in these studies.  It amazes me SLC gets any gains at school with this level of compliance as we don&#039;t do well at that level.

Also, our results vary which of course makes sense given that every child is different.  The problem with studies like this is that &#039;average gains&quot; miss that some children have their lives changed AND we often hear our most dramatic changes a year later which these studies (for good scientific reasons) do not capture at all.  

Having provided Fast ForWord to 350 kids or so in the last three years I am so over the does-this-work question.  Not only does it work for kids with CAPD and/or reading issues, we are forever expanding who we agree to try it with and are constantly being surprised by its power to change brain wiring.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We are a private provider of Fast ForWord using a motivational learning center approach.  We get better results than these studies because we have 90% compliance on average vs 60-65% in these studies.  It amazes me SLC gets any gains at school with this level of compliance as we don&#8217;t do well at that level.</p>
<p>Also, our results vary which of course makes sense given that every child is different.  The problem with studies like this is that &#8216;average gains&#8221; miss that some children have their lives changed AND we often hear our most dramatic changes a year later which these studies (for good scientific reasons) do not capture at all.  </p>
<p>Having provided Fast ForWord to 350 kids or so in the last three years I am so over the does-this-work question.  Not only does it work for kids with CAPD and/or reading issues, we are forever expanding who we agree to try it with and are constantly being surprised by its power to change brain wiring.</p>
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		<title>By: JohnL</title>
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		<dc:creator>JohnL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 17:17:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve, thanks for dropping a comment. It&#039;s nice to have someone from SciLearn among the readers, especially when you didn&#039;t adopt the strategy that some corporate folks seem to favor: Cut and paste a press release into the comments. 

Your point about dose-response considerations is very important, in my view. The importance is heightened in areas where there may be a tipping point. By that I mean that learners might make minimal progress until an as-yet-unknown skill level is reached, at which point facility with the skill increases rapidly. I suspect (don&#039;t have the experimental evidence to show, though) that some of these quasi-cognitive skills are subject to this phenomenon. In my clinical experience (and it&#039;s only that), I&#039;ve seen some remedial students go from struggling for weeks to read 20 nonsense words correct per minute to reading nearly double that number in just a few days. 

The concept is analogous to the idea of developmental disequilibrium. It&#039;s also connected to LaBerge and Samuels&#039; concept of automaticity. If y&#039;all could relate entering child characteristics to the number of practice trails needed before that sort of phenomenon happens, that&#039;d be something, no? Of course, first you&#039;d need to show that it does, in fact, happen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve, thanks for dropping a comment. It&#8217;s nice to have someone from SciLearn among the readers, especially when you didn&#8217;t adopt the strategy that some corporate folks seem to favor: Cut and paste a press release into the comments. </p>
<p>Your point about dose-response considerations is very important, in my view. The importance is heightened in areas where there may be a tipping point. By that I mean that learners might make minimal progress until an as-yet-unknown skill level is reached, at which point facility with the skill increases rapidly. I suspect (don&#8217;t have the experimental evidence to show, though) that some of these quasi-cognitive skills are subject to this phenomenon. In my clinical experience (and it&#8217;s only that), I&#8217;ve seen some remedial students go from struggling for weeks to read 20 nonsense words correct per minute to reading nearly double that number in just a few days. </p>
<p>The concept is analogous to the idea of developmental disequilibrium. It&#8217;s also connected to LaBerge and Samuels&#8217; concept of automaticity. If y&#8217;all could relate entering child characteristics to the number of practice trails needed before that sort of phenomenon happens, that&#8217;d be something, no? Of course, first you&#8217;d need to show that it does, in fact, happen.</p>
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