Comments on: Teacherless IEPs? http://TeachEffectively.com/2006/06/18/teacherless-ieps/ Evidence-based teaching methods for helping students who are at risk for school failure or who have disabilities. Wed, 14 Dec 2011 18:30:17 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: JohnL http://TeachEffectively.com/2006/06/18/teacherless-ieps/comment-page-1/#comment-5632 JohnL Thu, 29 Jun 2006 19:26:35 +0000 http://johnl.edschool.virginia.edu/blogs/TeachEffectively/2006/06/18/teacherless-ieps/#comment-5632 Lucasbaker, thanks for the comment on this matter. I agree that if the allegations are true, they are very problemsome and I especially like your metaphor: "You can’t take a step or two out of the scientific process and still expect the space ship to fly or the get accuate results." Kombiz replied to my inquiry on the EdWize site, pointing at a document that, using confusing writing, described a change in the IEP team procedures. It sounds like the change is in line with the extract I posted in the original. Do you have any evidence that would bear on the issue in the post on the United Federation of Teachers site? JohnL Lucasbaker, thanks for the comment on this matter. I agree that if the allegations are true, they are very problemsome and I especially like your metaphor: “You can’t take a step or two out of the scientific process and still expect the space ship to fly or the get accuate results.”

Kombiz replied to my inquiry on the EdWize site, pointing at a document that, using confusing writing, described a change in the IEP team procedures. It sounds like the change is in line with the extract I posted in the original.

Do you have any evidence that would bear on the issue in the post on the United Federation of Teachers site?

JohnL

]]> By: lucasbaker http://TeachEffectively.com/2006/06/18/teacherless-ieps/comment-page-1/#comment-5614 lucasbaker Wed, 28 Jun 2006 14:55:57 +0000 http://johnl.edschool.virginia.edu/blogs/TeachEffectively/2006/06/18/teacherless-ieps/#comment-5614 Hello, This is indeed an outrage. But as retired district supervisor of special education services I am not suprised to find that schools are trying to "dodge" the requirements of the IDEA. It is the States responsiblity to make sure that students recieve their civil rights to due process in getting a free and appropriate pubic education. Local districts and cities follow State guidlines and mandates that are based on Federal Law (IDEA). Often one finds that the alignment of the three governing bodies (Fed, State, Local) is very poor. In my experince this breakdown of alignment happens most often at the local level with individual schools simply refusing to follow (or even understand) the law because they see it as too expensive, inconvient and/or unnessesary. The only way that parents and teachers have been able to deal with these situations has been through litiagion. Unfortunatly, the individual schools will be supported by the district or Region. The City would like nothing better than to streamline the evaluation and assessment processes in regard to students with special needs. This process takes time, training, teacher hours and leads (if done correctly) to fundemental changes in how the school teachers all students. Properly managing an IEP is a dynamic and creative collaborative, cooperative process that is the design center piece of the origional IDEA in 1975 called The Education for All Handicapped Children Act. Watering down the assessment part of the IEP is the worst thing that could be done. In special education Assessement is everything, it directs and drives instruction with magnifide and distinctive focus on strengh and needs and that makes progress not just a possibility buy a probobility. it is very scientific. You can't take a step or two out of the scientific process and still expect the space ship to fly or the get accuate results. Don't let them take away our rights! Hello,
This is indeed an outrage. But as retired district supervisor of special education services I am not suprised to find that schools are trying to “dodge” the requirements of the IDEA. It is the States responsiblity to make sure that students recieve their civil rights to due process in getting a free and appropriate pubic education. Local districts and cities follow State guidlines and mandates that are based on Federal Law (IDEA). Often one finds that the alignment of the three governing bodies (Fed, State, Local) is very poor.
In my experince this breakdown of alignment happens most often at the local level with individual schools simply refusing to follow (or even understand) the law because they see it as too expensive, inconvient and/or unnessesary. The only way that parents and teachers have been able to deal with these situations has been through litiagion. Unfortunatly, the individual schools will be supported by the district or Region. The City would like nothing better than to streamline the evaluation and assessment processes in regard to students with special needs. This process takes time, training, teacher hours and leads (if done correctly) to fundemental changes in how the school teachers all students.

Properly managing an IEP is a dynamic and creative collaborative, cooperative process that is the design center piece of the origional IDEA in 1975 called The Education for All Handicapped Children Act. Watering down the assessment part of the IEP
is the worst thing that could be done. In special education Assessement is everything, it directs and drives instruction with magnifide and distinctive focus on strengh and needs and that makes progress not just a possibility buy a probobility. it is very scientific. You can’t take a step or two out of the scientific process and still expect the space ship to fly or the get accuate results. Don’t let them take away our rights!

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